Are We Just Stupid?
I'm just curious...
What the hell are we doing? Are we trying to make it as difficult as possible to fight the war on terror? Have we completely lost our collective minds? If it isn't the New York Times publishing secret programs that help capture terrorists, it's the Supreme Court telling us that we have to afford Geneva Convention protections to a group of people who are not bound by the Geneva Conventions. Not only that, these people don't even come close to the definition of a POW as stated in the Geneva Convention. Seems to me this latest Supreme Court decision stinks of instituting international law in spite of our own Constitution. To be perfectly honest, it seems to me they can't even read what the Geneva Conventions actually states. I've done this before, but let's do it again, shall we? Actual text from the Geneva Conventions in Blue, my comments in White:
PART I
GENERAL PROVISIONS
Article 4A.
Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
-Terrorists can in no way be considered members of "the armed forces of a Party to the conflict" because there is no state being represented by the terrorists. Terrorists in this conflict come from Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and in some cases, even the U.S. They do not represent a single party in the conflict.
2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfill the following conditions:
(a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
-There is clearly no chain of command in these independent cells of terrorists. There is no commander responsible for subordinates. Some may be loyal to bin Laden, but they act independent from him.
(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
-They have no standard, no insignia, no rank structure, or nothing that designates them as a member of a militia or military service. They attack and fight in civilian clothes and cannot be distinguished from civilians.
(c) That of carrying arms openly;
-Hiding a bomb under a jacket clearly does not qualify as carrying arms openly.
(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
-I cannot think of a single reported terrorist act that meets this criteria. A pregnant woman delivering a bomb doesn't even comply with the laws of nature much less "the laws and customs of war."
Granted, I'm no Supreme Court Justice, and I'm not the smartest guy on the planet, but I can read! Looks pretty clear to me that none of these people at Gitmo, especially bin Laden's driver fit the description of a POW as laid out in the Geneva Conventions.
So, am I crazy or should the GC protections be afforded to those that signed onto the treaty itself. What the Supreme Court has done by insisting GC protections be afforded to terrorists is insinuate we have a treaty with al Qaida. When did that happen?
Look, I appreciate the Rule of Law and the notion of that is what separates us from these barbarians trying to kill us. And make no mistake, they are trying to kill us. However, when we wrongfully and purposely misinterpret the law and the Constitution in a case as important as this one, the entire notion of the Rule of Law is lost. So you've gone against the very image you are trying to portray to the rest of the world in the first place. It doesn't do much good to be the most civilized country on the planet, if you do everything in your power to help those that want to end your civilization. And don't think for one second, that's not what the Islam-Fascists want. That is exactly what they want. They've wanted it for a thousand years, and it's not going to stop if we're nice to them.
Wake up people!
What the hell are we doing? Are we trying to make it as difficult as possible to fight the war on terror? Have we completely lost our collective minds? If it isn't the New York Times publishing secret programs that help capture terrorists, it's the Supreme Court telling us that we have to afford Geneva Convention protections to a group of people who are not bound by the Geneva Conventions. Not only that, these people don't even come close to the definition of a POW as stated in the Geneva Convention. Seems to me this latest Supreme Court decision stinks of instituting international law in spite of our own Constitution. To be perfectly honest, it seems to me they can't even read what the Geneva Conventions actually states. I've done this before, but let's do it again, shall we? Actual text from the Geneva Conventions in Blue, my comments in White:
PART I
GENERAL PROVISIONS
Article 4A.
Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
-Terrorists can in no way be considered members of "the armed forces of a Party to the conflict" because there is no state being represented by the terrorists. Terrorists in this conflict come from Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and in some cases, even the U.S. They do not represent a single party in the conflict.
2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfill the following conditions:
(a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
-There is clearly no chain of command in these independent cells of terrorists. There is no commander responsible for subordinates. Some may be loyal to bin Laden, but they act independent from him.
(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
-They have no standard, no insignia, no rank structure, or nothing that designates them as a member of a militia or military service. They attack and fight in civilian clothes and cannot be distinguished from civilians.
(c) That of carrying arms openly;
-Hiding a bomb under a jacket clearly does not qualify as carrying arms openly.
(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
-I cannot think of a single reported terrorist act that meets this criteria. A pregnant woman delivering a bomb doesn't even comply with the laws of nature much less "the laws and customs of war."
Granted, I'm no Supreme Court Justice, and I'm not the smartest guy on the planet, but I can read! Looks pretty clear to me that none of these people at Gitmo, especially bin Laden's driver fit the description of a POW as laid out in the Geneva Conventions.
So, am I crazy or should the GC protections be afforded to those that signed onto the treaty itself. What the Supreme Court has done by insisting GC protections be afforded to terrorists is insinuate we have a treaty with al Qaida. When did that happen?
Look, I appreciate the Rule of Law and the notion of that is what separates us from these barbarians trying to kill us. And make no mistake, they are trying to kill us. However, when we wrongfully and purposely misinterpret the law and the Constitution in a case as important as this one, the entire notion of the Rule of Law is lost. So you've gone against the very image you are trying to portray to the rest of the world in the first place. It doesn't do much good to be the most civilized country on the planet, if you do everything in your power to help those that want to end your civilization. And don't think for one second, that's not what the Islam-Fascists want. That is exactly what they want. They've wanted it for a thousand years, and it's not going to stop if we're nice to them.
Wake up people!
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